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Post by william G on May 5, 2012 13:11:30 GMT -5
Christian Identity ( CI) is the belief that the White man is decendants of the true house of Israel,the true blood line of Adam.CI is the belief that jEws are the outcome of Eves adultery with the devil( serpent in the garden decendants of cain. The white man is the true 12 tribes of Israel,scattered through out the world. We believe that God's word is only ment for the true decendants of the House of Israel the White race. The other races are recognized as dogs ,God's word does not apply to them. Simplified version 1488 Attachments:
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Post by kirkfraser on May 5, 2012 17:16:11 GMT -5
Sometimes there is a difference between observed truth and propaganda promoted by the group. In my understanding, the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) was invented by Democrats as their activist wing to kill Republicans, including both white and black since the Republicans were formed as the anti-slavery party. The KKK's propaganda focused on killing blacks. Eventually as their purpose went out of favor politically, with civil rights marches and laws, the KKK morphed into the Aryan Nations. As the Aryan Nations came under persecution by law enforcement, they took a new brand name, Christian Identity. One leader vowed on TV to keep taking new names whenever they are stopped by law enforcement. As anyone can read in the above post's attachment, the propaganda of affinity with the Bible is a lie, based on how they see the Jews. Their false propaganda comes first with them, not the Bible or the one who created all things Jesus Christ. Visiting the home of one of the last Aryan Nations members, I was impressed at the huge difference between his assumed self-importance and his actual skills. He showed me his woodworking hobby which produced figures so bad they'd never sell as art or even children's toys. The same skill he applied to Bible analysis - so poor quality it would be better for him to remain silent until he went to a real church to learn the real truth. It apparent that these descendants of the KKK movement are even stupider than average. Satan has so destroyed their minds they can't believe the truth. Skin-heads were another part of the Aryan Nations. I encountered some in Oregon, especially when living in Portland. These poor kids are even more demon possessed, so much that when I a strong Christian even looked at them they'd run away. This happened several times, as they left the bus or as they walked by my home. Later I learned a bit more about how depraved they are. I saw a video of skinheads fighting among themselves, just as a recreational activity, a disorganized fight club, more like a mob fight. I don't know if the propaganda was that it was training or just recreation, a mob fight is not something smart people engage in. So now the Christian Identity movement inherits from its previous incarnations, carrying the dumb social-genetic predisposition for sin to new levels, yet underground, always needing to be watchful for government crackdowns. Why don't they abandon their lies and pursue truth? People so committed could become a force for good if they'd turn their hearts to serve Jesus instead of Satan.
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Post by Rev. Dr. Red on May 6, 2012 0:19:02 GMT -5
Granted the mentioned groups all share a similar mentality, the ideology is slightly different. I have met AN members that could pass as SkinHeads by appearance, KKK that are CI and KKK that are Kinist, etc. Many parts of the beliefs are the same but not 100%. I had a close friend in NY that was KKK, I was raised a National Socialist, many friends were SkinHeads, and I was tightly affiliated with a NY chapter of AN. What they all have in common is living by the 14 words. Where they differ is in their spiritual practices, ceremonies, and all around attitude. SkinHeads are the worthless know nothing wannabe's in my oppinion, but they have great courage. The KKK and AN are more mature in how they handle things. And they dont allow the public to see certain things, which only strengthens their argument that their bad name comes from rogue chapters and/or propoganda by the mainstream media. CI is merely one of many ideologies individuals in these organizations choose to practice. The more popular being CI or Kinism; But i have seen chapters of different groups that had either individuals or a whole that practiced one of the Protestant faiths or Catholicism.
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Post by revfarnsworth on May 6, 2012 19:29:46 GMT -5
I was wondering what makes kirkfraser such an expert on the Bible that he can stand in judgement of other people. What makes what you believe right and everybody else wrong? Did YHVH step away for a moment and leave you in charge of the judgement seat? For the last week or more I have read things that you have posted in response to others and just things you have posted. It seems to be all negative. You seem to have a problem with everyone and you hold yourself up to be the only expert. Its like if someone doesn't believe according to your view they are ignorant or stupid. I even took a stab at reading the part of the book you have on-line. Half the history is incorrect. It has bad sentence structure and what I found hard to understand was how there where half sentences and half way through a subject you would include what I considered just some kind of random thought that made absolutely no sense. Your take on prayer sounds more like transcendental meditation more than it does Biblical prayer. There is no secret code to talking with the Father. There is no secret combination to an infinite wish list. More than anything else all the Father wants is a relatiomship with His children. He just wants us to spend time with Him, in His word, allowing the Holy Spirit to teach us. See we each are different and thats the way He made us. We each will have a different relationship with Him. We'll each be at different levels of growth. So what works for one may not be what works for another. Just like in a human family. A father may have many children, He loves all of them as much as the next, but they each have a different relationship with Him, because they each have a different personality. So once again. What makes you right and everyone else wrong? Who are you to sit in judgement of me or anyone else? I could go on but that would propably be a waste of time. Because just like the words that you us to spew your opinion and be-little other people and what they believe, thats just what it is YOUR OPINION. Just as this is my opinion. There are alot of people running around out there with false ideas of what the Bible says or doesn't say. If a person is led to instruct/correct another then they should find a better way to do it then to critize them. You can attract more flies with honey then you can with vinegar. When you start tearing someone down they turn you off and they will hear nothing you say from that point on. We are told to teach the truth, thats it. If someone disagrees with you or has an opinion different than you that's fine. All where to do is plant the seed of truth, not beat them up with it. After that its up to the Holy Spirit to water it and that person to accept the truth. Just like the rich young ruler that asked Christ what must he do in order to be a disciple. Well Christ tells him. Then the Bible says the man walked away sadden. He was told the truth and refused to accept it. We never see Christ run after the man and try to force him to believe. One of the first items of yours I read was about the many different denominations there are and how none effective they are in reaching the lost, mainly because their fighting each other because each one thinks their right. Well isn't that kinda what your doing? Causing division by insulting people. Just my thoughts on what I have witnessed. Take it for what ever you will. In short I'm saying "Judge not that ye may not be judged". Where called to be the light. Where called to love. Where called to teach. Not to insult or be-little.
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Post by kirkfraser on May 6, 2012 20:26:07 GMT -5
I am curious why skin-heads are as written above, wanna-bees who run off at even a glance of a strong Christian. Who recruits and teaches skin-heads?
Although I don't want to feed a kind of worldliness, it seems the skin-heads fit the weak minded type in Star Wars. Are skinheads taught to be weak minded brutes? How can they be turned to Jesus' side?
Answering Rev. Farnsworth's repeated question, I refer you to my statement of introduction. I have been pursuing the true church for 40 years and have observed mine start, flourish, degrade, and die. So there is no one but Jesus who should be followed for more than 3.5 years like the disciples followed him. All Christians should follow Jesus, not Paul. Anyone who makes that error inherits the condemnation due modern Pharisees. To anyone actually following Jesus there is no condemnation.
So if you have a pure heart, you'll receive my words as blessings of truth. If not, your heart will show you its need to turn to love Jesus only. Although Rev. Red and I have different backgrounds I believe we have both worked through a lot of persecution to choose Jesus and His absolute Truth as our boss. Jesus' way is the true right way, the correct way.
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Post by kirkfraser on May 8, 2012 0:47:32 GMT -5
Notice Rev. Farnsworth's guest status above indicates he cancelled his membership. The administrator and moderators did not block him or kick him off. A neighbor of mine loves the Pauline church so much (even though he doesn't attend any) he resists the true church to the point of intentionally trying and succeeding in getting me kicked off two Christian forums, with statements not very different from Rev. Farnsworth's above. I noted earlier to Rev. Red about Rev. Farnsworth's similarity to the ones who kicked us off the Black Robe Regiment for wanting Jesus to be our leader. There seems to be a lot of people who have initial salvation and even build a ministry but haven't been persecuted enough to choose Jesus only. Jesus said to cast your net on the right side of the boat to catch fish. It appears to me the boat is church and the right side is the side who chooses Jesus as leader and boss instead of a human Christian. So how do you suggest finding more people who want Jesus only? This inspired me with the idea there are two types of Christians. The J-type who love Jesus as their only boss and the P-type who love human hierarchy, money, and other things of Paul. I expect those who made the Left Behind fiction books popular are P-type. Truth Storm needs Jesus Christians! Pray for it.
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Post by kirkfraser on May 9, 2012 13:24:57 GMT -5
Imagine a tract showing the difference between J-type Christians and P-type Christians. J-type Christians believe in following Jesus only as their leader and boss. P-type Christians believe in creating and following human hierarchy and money like Paul. These types are quite opposite. J's want Jesus' absolute perfection. P's want hierarchical power which in committee becomes moderate and imperfect. P's love preachers who tickle their ears. J's love the still small voice that comes from Jesus within.
Their end is also different. In Matthew 25 Jesus explains the difference between the Wise J's and the Foolish P's. The Wise are taken to be with Jesus, the foolish are left behind. Also see Rev. 12:5-6 the manchild or J's are taken up but the foolish P's fall back to earth to endure the great tribulation.
What is amazing is how hard headed the P's are. Whether you call them half Christians or cite every error as of Satan, they will not repent but fight as though this was a game they can win. So it becomes obvious some are predestined to love their earthly life more than pleasing God.
If you are a true J-type Christian, we want you!
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